Re: All things don't come to an end, they convert.

[Robert L. Vaessen]

Pat -

You're making some good points. I agree that we can't destroy or 
create matter/energy. However, I still stick to my 'Probability 
Matrix' model. All things that exist/are occurring, will 
exist/ever occur, and have ever existed/occurred, simultaneously 
coexist within a static, unchanging, now. Nothing becomes, was, 
or transitions. It all just IS. Our consciousness makes 
connections between these nodes, and we are only able to 
experience these connections in a limited sequential manner. We 
call this sequencing of nodes 'Time'.

To us it seems like one event logically follows another, obeying 
the laws of physics. I like the Star Trek analogy, and do agree 
that probability nodes affect each other, but only in the 
context of my previous statement. Our consciousness makes these 
connections... (see above). As I said in an earlier email: "I 
have explained that there are a limited number of nodes (events) 
on any given probability path. The number of possible nodes 
(events) in any given probability path is limited by other 
physical constraints (laws of physics (Gravity, laws of 
thermodynamics, conservation of energy, etc...)." These 
limitations apply to our consciousness, and our ability to move 
from one node to another.

Your statement "one probability node's end is another 
probability node's beginning" is an accurate depiction of what I 
described as a probability tree. You have multiple branches on 
any probability tree. A common node is a starting point for 
numerous paths. I still don't believe that there are infinite 
nodes, or infinite probabilities. Just that there is a very 
large number of nodes/probabilities. Our consciousness 
(collectively as all of mankind) is only capable of making a 
limited number of nodal connections in the probability matrix.

So now we're on the subject of where did these nodes come from? 
Is there anything/one outside this matrix? I don't know. This is 
the point where scientists become religious. Know one really 
knows the answers to some questions. Who/what decided how big 
the matrix is, what's in the matrix, and what are the rules 
governing our consciousness? Why do we exist at all? How did our 
consciousness get into this matrix?

I bought a book recently; 'God & the new physics'. I don't 
expect to find any answers to these questions, but I'm hoping 
that it will help me understand some of these interesting 
questions. Unfortunately, I'm going to have to wait some time 
before I can read it. I'm bogged down in this management course. 
Learning about leadership, team building, the profession of 
arms, communication, etc..

- Robert



On Thursday, March 7, 2002, at 11:11 , Patrick G Konshak wrote:

> Nothing ever really comes to an end.  You can't destroy or create
> matter/energy.  Only convert it from one form to another.  So "one
> probability node's end is another probability node's 
> beginning".  Another
> point to consider is that each probability node though illustrated as
> separate events, they are tied together. That is: one probability node
> (one branch) effects the out come of another branch.  I seen this
> illustrated on Star Trek Voyager were someone was trying to change time
> back it it's original state. Every little change he made had effects on
> other events around the Galaxy.  He could not change one node (branch)
> with out changing the others.
>
> Now if you can't create or destroy matter/energy (as we know it).  Is
> there a beginning or an end to matter/energy, or is it that word
> Infinite?  If matter/energy is not Infinite, how dose nothing create
> something?  If you say something create matter/energy, like God, then
> your talking about conversion again (that is: it came from 
> God's power),
> and we start over.  Is God Infinite, or was he created?
>
> Pat