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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'><div><br></div><font size="3">Coming to you LIVE from the 14th Floor of a building in Times Square, where buglers are playing taps as part of a "Kiss-In" to commemorate the end of WWII, on this glorious Friday the 13th, with twenty-six months until 12/12, where at the 11th hour today's topic has been organized as a top 10 list, at least 9 of which will be written and read while Eminem's 8-mile ditty about reality serves as the subconscious background music, with Prince's 7 as first alternate, while I attempt to further warp your preconceptions about dreams and a whole lot more 6 ways from Sunday, plodding our way to an eventual DREAMS: LEVEL 5 session, by playing 4 corners Princeton-style offense on non-believers' brains until their defensive shot clocks expire, setting the stage for a 3-fold culmination on dream understanding, and please let this serve as your 2-week warning before Inception spoilers, as we turn again to the possible #1 authority on dreams, Seth!<br> <br><font face="Verdana">Freud this, Jung that, toby, toby wong, toby, toby mutha effing charlie chan! (Lick a Mayan poison toad and follow me down the rabbit hole. It is right this way...)</font><br> <br>TOP TEN DEEP CONCEPTS FROM SETH ON THE TOPIC OF DREAMS<br> <br>10. <em> </em><span style="font-family: Verdana;">“If you have little memory of dream locations when you are awake, you have little memory of ‘physical’ locations when you are in the dream state. When the physical body lies in bed, it is separated by a vast distance from the dream location in which the dreaming self may dwell. But this distance has nothing to do with space, for the dream location can exist simultaneously with the room in which the body sleeps....</span><span style="font-family: Verdana;">“Dream locations are not superimposed upon, say, the bed and chest and chair. They exist composed of the very same atoms and molecules that in the waking state you perceive as bed and chest and chair. Objects, remember, are the results of your perception. From energy you form patterns which you then recognize as objects and use. But the objects are useless unless you are focused within the dimension for which they were specifically formed....</span><span style="font-family: Verdana;">“In some dream states you form from these same atoms and molecules the environment in which you will operate. While dreaming you cannot find the or chest or chair; and awake you cannot find the dream location which was there only moments before.”</span><br><strong><font face="Verdana">So...you are not dreaming 10 feet away from your dresser drawers. And your nightstand is no longer your nightstand while you are dreaming. It was not formed for the dimension you are in. Those same molecules that you perceive to form the nightstand when setting your alarm clock are now put to use in the construction of your dream environment. The only big leap of faith for this one is giving proper respect to the fact that when you dream you are in a different "dimension(s)."</font></strong><br> <br>9. <span style="font-family: Verdana;">“Each dream begins with psychic energy which the individual transforms not into physical matter, but into a reality every bit as functional and real. He forms the idea into a dream object or event with amazing discrimination, so that the dream object itself gains existence and exists in numerous dimensions….</span><span style="font-family: Verdana;">“Although the dreamer creates his dreams for his own purposes, selecting only those symbols which have meaning to him, he projects them outward in a value fulfillment and psychic expansion. The expansion occurs as the dream is acted out. A contraction occurs as the dreamer is finished with the dream events, but the energy cannot be taken back.”</span><br><br></font><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><span style="font-family: Verdana;"></span><strong><font face="Verdana">Matter = energy, confirmed once again. I had a dream recently where I was outside (think giant grass area with some buildings) with a friend of ours and all of a sudden we heard gunshots...I remember not being scared initially, perhaps because on a certain level I knew that you don't have to worry about actual death in dreams, perhaps gettin' off on the adrenaline of the situation a bit, but since I didn't know I was dreaming at the time, the tangible reason that I wasn't scared in the moment was because I thought the friend and I could just run fast and far away in the other direction...then we heard a gunshot from the opposite direction. Then from another direction...quickly realized there were about 10 gunmen with rifles and there was no where to go except to hit the deck...remember feeling very scared at that point (like I have never feared for my life in our reality, knock on wood), and before we could even get to the ground the dream was over. Point is, I know there weren't 10 gunmen until I spun around and saw that second one...at that point I had that sensation of "oh crap, this environment is a blank canvas and when I turn back around I am totally going to project more gunmen." Like you know you are dreaming, you know there is a blank canvas, and you know you will psychically expand the environment - "roll it out" if you will. Me making those gunmen was just as real as you making the chair you are sitting in. </font></strong><br> <br>8. <span style="font-family: Verdana;">“A man’s thoughts and dreams are far more reaching than he knows. They exist in more dimensions; they affect worlds of which he is unaware. They are as concrete, in effect, as any building. They appear in many guises within many systems, and once created cannot be withdrawn…"</span></font></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><span style="font-family: Verdana;"></span><strong><font face="Verdana">Just banging home the point while you might be beginning to buy into all of this. Of course I would make that same chair or nightstand out of the same molecules if I came to your place - those few agreements out of the infinite possibilities are what make our reality real. New York is a concrete jungle of wonder - you can't turn it into a swamp when you come to visit. Your dreams can be edited, but they are not any less real than New York. </font></strong><br> <br>7. <span style="font-family: Verdana;">“When you are manipulating within physical reality, you have a fairly simple set of rules to serve you. Within dream reality there is greater freedom. The ego is not present. The waking consciousness is not the ego. The ego is only that portion of waking consciousness that deals with physical manipulation...</span><span style="font-family: Verdana;">“Waking consciousness can be taken into the dream state; the ego cannot, as it would falter and cause immediate failure."</span></font></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><span style="font-family: Verdana;"></span><strong>If we could only remove what he refers to as the "ego", then all of this would be a lot easier to grasp. On second thought, let's not. I kind of like this little universe we have created for ourselves!</strong><br> <br>6. <span style="font-family: Verdana;">“There is form within dream reality, but form is first of all potential existing within psychical materialization. The house that you may live in within five years may not yet exist in your terms. It may not have been built yet, therefore physically you wouldn't perceive it. Still, such a house does have form, and does exist within the Spacious Present....</span><span style="font-family: Verdana;">“Now in certain levels of dream reality, forms such as this can be perceived. Within dream reality you can come into contact with many other kinds of phenomena with which usually you do not have to deal…</span></font></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><strong>The house you might live in 5 years from now, that hasn't been "built" yet in our reality already exists in the spacious present. Am I just a quack or is that easily believable? I think Dreams pt. 3 might need to venture into the realm of parallel universes so that we can just get our arms around this thing once and for all.</strong><br> <br>5. <span style="font-family: Verdana;">“The dream universe, then, possesses concepts which will someday completely transform the history of the physical world, but a denial of such concepts as possibilities delays their emergence.”....</span><span style="font-family: Verdana;">“It is quite possible for a dreamer to visit planetary systems, of the past, present, or future in your terms. Such visits are usually fragmentary and spontaneous. It is best that they remain so.”</span></font></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><span style="font-family: Verdana;"></span><strong><font face="Verdana">I won't lie - this one even freaks me out a little. Did anyone else think 12/21/12 after reading the first sentence though?</font></strong><br> <br>4. <font face="Verdana">“The dream experience is felt directly by the inner self. Dreams have an electric actuality, as I told you. In this [electronic actuality] they not only exist independently of the dreamer, but they have what you might call tangible form, though not in the form of matter as you are familiar with.”</font></font></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><strong><font face="Verdana" size="3">Do not downplay the importance and ramifications of dreams. They exist even when we are not remembering them. You bought the "God" particle stuff but you are not going to buy this? We are not inventing anything new here. We know there is dark matter. We don't know what it is. Seth says there is a dream matter we don't know about either. Don't stop the presses.</font></strong></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"> <br>3. <span style="font-family: Verdana;">“On one level the personality attempts to solve problems through dream construction… and often gives freedom to actions that cannot be adequately expressed within the confines of waking life. If the attempt fails, then the problem or action may materialize as an illness....</span><span style="font-family: Verdana;">“Consider, for example, a situation in which a personality needs to express dependency but feels such expression inappropriate. If he is able to form a dream in which he plays a dependent part, then the problem may be solved within the dream state. In many instances, this is precisely what happens. The individual may never recall such a dream, but the experience would be valid and the dependency expressed....</span><span style="font-family: Verdana;">“Much work has been done to interpret dreams, but little to control the direction of activity within them. Upon proper suggestion, this can be an excellent method of therapy. Negative dreams tend to reinforce the negative aspects of the personality, helping to form vicious circles of unfortunate complications. Dream actions can be turned toward fulfilling constructive expectations, which can themselves effect a change for the better....</span><span style="font-family: Verdana;">“Many illnesses could largely be avoided through such dream therapy. Rather harmlessly, aggressive tendencies could be given freedom within the dream state. Suggestions would be given that the individual involved would experience, say, aggressiveness, within a dream. It would also be suggested to him that when learn to understand his aggressions by watching himself while he was dreaming. If I man in a fantasy, theoretically you could imagine a massive experiment in dream therapy where wars were fought by sleeping, not waking, nations.”</span></font></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><font face="Verdana"><strong><font face="Tahoma">As far as I am concerned, Seth just explained everything we already knew about dreams in a much more enlightening way. So if he is a crock, this is a good one to point to as far as him stealing material. If he is real, this one might be the most important to you. </font>The power of positive thinking in our waking reality is ironclad. I want to go to placebo dreams rehab sleepaway camp. Who's down? I wonder if this was how Tiger was cured ;) </strong></font><br> <br>2. <span style="font-family: Verdana;">“Many concepts and practical inventions simply wait in the dream system in abeyance until some man accepts them as possibilities within the physical frame of reality… Imagination is waking man’s connection with the dream system. Imagination often reinstates dream date and applies it to particular circumstances or problems within daily life…</span></font></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><span style="font-family: Verdana;"></span><strong><font face="Verdana">And this whole time you thought imagination was just for shizzles and giggles! At best, a patent and an infomercial! The more obviously true these statements are, the less I feel obligated to write.</font></strong><br> <br>1. <span style="font-family: Verdana;">“I mentioned the Crucifixion, saying once that it was actuality a reality, although it did not take place in y our [physical] time. It took place in the same sort of time in which a dream occurs and its reality was felt by generations. Not being a physical reality, it influenced the world of physical matter in a way that no purely physical event could.</span></font></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;"><font size="3">“The Crucifixion was one of the realities that enriched both the universe of dreams and the universe of matter, and it originated in the universe of dreams. It was a main contribution of that system to your own, and could be physically compared to the emergence of a new planet within the physical universe.”</font></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;"><font size="3">Seth is not saying here that the Crucifixion was “just a dream.” He is saying that though it did not occur historically, it did happen within another reality and emerged in to history as an idea rather than a physical event—an idea that changed civilization. (According to Seth, an idea is an event, whether physically materialized or not.)</font></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font size="3"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">Seth goes on to say: “The Ascension [of Christ] did not occur in time as you know it. It is also a contribution of the universe of dreams to your physical system, representing the knowledge that man is independent of physical matter…</span><br><strong>No Comment. </strong></font></p><div><br></div>South Beach Peace<br><style><!--
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